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The other side (a closer look at "Worse than Wal-Mart")

So a number of players and thus a number of blogs have picked up on an article written on soccer365.com recently, the name of that article/post was "Worse than Wal-Mart"  In the article the author tries to portray the situation of KC Wizards keeper and all around good guy Kevin Hartman and how player movement is treated with a fictional situation at Wal-Mart.  First I find great humor in this, the author chose Wal-Mart because of their reputation with many about being this horrible employer who are evil in every aspect.  He doesn't deny it, in fact he fully admits it and then weaves a fictional tale about it.

I think from the very start you can tell that the author is clearly in the camp of the players and at the end of last week a number of articles were written with what I would call "controlled content" provided by someone to make the position of the players look like the one fans should rally behind.  Heck I found this article because RSL's Chris Wingert posted it on facebook:
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and while I respect that the players have a right to voice their opinions, it was funny how so many of them at the end of the week started talking again after weeks of silence.

So off to the article I went, and it starts with this paragraph: "Until very recently, one would hardly have expected Kevin Hartman to serve as the poster boy for pretty much everything that is wrong with how Major League Soccer treats its players. Yet that is exactly what Hartman has become."

I am not sure if the author really meant that when you consider that Kevin Hartman has made over $450,000 in the last 3 years. Not something that 95% of Walmart players would be able to relate to, or something the vast majority of MLS players would be able to related to.

More after the jump:

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The author goes on for 5 paragraphs before he mentions what is the real issue in KC, the fact that Hartman is 35 years old and while they are right that he holds a number of records in MLS, the reality is that KC won 8 matches last year and perhaps a new coach wants to go in a new direction and part of that might not be keeping one of the top paid keepers in the league.  Heck the team left him unprotected last fall in the expansion draft and one has to believe they either want him to sign for a lower salary or would be willing to move him if another team wanted him.

The author is correct that the Wizards would still own the rights to Hartman even if they didn't resign him, as far as if he stayed in MLS.  Hartman could chose to try his luck overseas, but an 35 year old keeper probably isn't on the list of things most overseas teams are looking for, he could try to get a job with a 2nd division team but I don't expect many teams to be willing to pick up his current salary.  The harsh reality is that no team has made an offer for him, in fact it seems that few teams are looking to change their keepers this off season, which sucks for Hartman but does that make the league the bad guy?

So to make the league look bad, which is clearly the intent of the author, they make up some situations about an employee of Wal-Mart who might want to move from one city to another.  Nice stories but far from realistic, the first example of a worker from New York who wants to move to Dallas but continue working for the company is great and he is right the Dallas store wouldn't have to pay compensation to the other store.  Of course what if the worker wanted to go but the store in Dallas had no openings and no desire to add this employee to their staff?  Would the store be forced to take him, of course not.  If the employee was one with a unique set of skills that demanded one of the top salaries in the store, it would actually be very likely that such a move would require permission of their corporate HQ, and they could very easily say no.  Sorry but this example has very little if anything in common with the situation that Hartman finds himself in.

The next example is what if the employee quit and then moved to a new city and decided they wanted to go back to work for Wal-Mart in the new city,   the new store wouldn't need permission from the old store or WalMart HQ before hiring the person.  Correct in part but wrong in part as well,  they wouldn't need permission but they would contact the other store to get additional information, but for a store manager, or other high paying position it is very likely that the hire would have to be approved by their HQ.

The author ends with a statement that he must believe to be true, "perhaps MLS brass would do well to ask themselves if treating their most important employees worse than Wal-Mart is conducive to healthy labor relations, not to mention a positive public image."

I think it is funny, actually it is sad that this article was ever written about Kevin Hartman.  Maybe if you had written it about Stuart Holden who was grossly underpaid before leaving the league, but if you are trying to convince to feel bad for Kevin Hartman and to think that the league and KC are bad people for not wanting to keep a player whose skill level is on the decline for the cost of over $165,000 a year, you have failed.  

If you are trying to make fans feel some level of compassion for the many legit complaints that players have, you have failed by using a highly paid player who despite being a hard worker and holder of a lot of MLS records, fails the basic "what have you done for me lately" test.

If you are trying to say that a coach/GM/President of a team shouldn't be allowed to terminate a player at the end of their contract, well I would say welcome to the real world.  I don't have a guaranteed contract and neither do the vast majority of MLS fans, nobody is saying Kevin Hartman can't continue to play.  A lot of teams are simply saying they don't want him and his very large salary.  The thought that you are trying to put out there that KC is refusing to take offers for him, is without proof and the thought that somehow Kevin Hartman deserves to be signed by someone is incredibly arrogant.  Maybe you should be looking at why nobody wants Kevin Hartman, or maybe you are right and he should simply move on to Wal-Mart, or some other company out there.  Good luck finding someone to pay him almost $200,000 a year to play soccer once or twice a week.

Real Issues 

I have over the past few weeks looked at a number of real issues with the league, but I continue to think that "Free Agency" is the least likely issue to be dealt with as long as the league continues to be the owner of player contracts. I would never try to make a case for the league being the good guy in every situation, but I would suggest that the players making over $150,000 a year stop bitching and moaning about things.  I have a lot more compassion for the many players making under $40,000 a year.  I have a lot more compassion for the players who have gone out and busted their butts for years just trying to make it to be a starter for a team, for many it has meant giving up things and enduring hardships,  I have much less compassion for a guy at the end of his career trying to cash in a few more years to pad his bank accounts.

I have made it clear that in this next CBA should raise the minimum and the maximum a player can make, I think a number of quality of life issues should be addressed, but I have also said that until some league structure things change that guaranteed contracts and free agency are not things this very young and still very unprofitable league can afford to do.

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Waived Developmental Players

Are under the same control as Hartman, just no one knows their names.

Evan Brown, last year’s Sounders 2nd round pick, was waived by the Sounders. While he was invited back to camp, he is instead trying out with San Jose. But Seattle still holds his rights, even though he is not under contract.

Even if Brown is decent, he will not get a contract with the Earthquakes because I doubt they are going to give Seattle alloaction dollars or draft picks.

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by Dave Clark on Feb 21, 2010 3:47 PM MST reply actions  

What?

Everything I’ve ever been told is that you have to offer a player a contract to retain his rights the next season. Here’s the rules about waivers directly from the league’s web site:

(G) WAIVERS
A team may place a player on waivers at any time during the regular season at which point he is made available to all other teams. The waiver claiming period shall commence on the first business day after the League delivers notice to teams and shall expire at 5 p.m. EST on the second business day after the Waiver Period Commencement Date. The claiming period is 48 hours.

The Waiver Draft order is determined via points per game once all teams have played at least three MLS League games. If the waiver takes place prior to all teams playing in at least three League games, priority shall be granted based upon the prior year’s performance, taking playoff performance first, with teams eliminated from playoff contention at the same stage separated according to their point totals through the end of the regular season, and new expansion teams shall be at the bottom of the waiver order. If there is more than one expansion team in a given year, they shall be listed in the reverse order of the SuperDraft order.

Once a team selects a player off waivers, that club is automatically moved to the bottom of the priority list for subsequent waiver selections in a given season, regardless of its points-per-game total. Players who may be placed on the MLS waiver wire are as follows:

(i) A player waived by an MLS team in the current season;

(ii) A player who completed his college eligibility within the past season, who was not made available in the SuperDraft;

(iii) A player who has remaining college eligibility (and was not made available in the SuperDraft), but the League at its discretion and after taking into account exceptional circumstances determines the player may be offered an MLS contract;

(iv) A player who has played in MLS previously where his last MLS team does not wish to exercise their right of first refusal, except in the case of returning U.S. National Team players as stated above.

'Gentlemen' he said,
'I don't need your organization,
I've shined your shoes,
moved your mountains and marked your cards,
but Eden is burning.
Either get ready for elimination,
or else your heart must have the courage,
for the changing of the guards.'

by Sgc on Feb 21, 2010 6:57 PM MST reply actions  

Nope

Nothing you’ve quoted contradicts what I said. Everything quoted shows what happens when a player is acquired via waiver, but not what happens if they are not.

Hartman’s rights are held by KC within MLS for the next four years.
Same with Evan Brown, Adrian Serioux, Claudio Lopez, Nik Besagno, etc

Released and waived players that are not acquired by another team through some kind of trade are sill under control of the last team for which they played.

What the players are trying to get is the ability to once waived or having their contracts completed pick which city in which they will play.

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by Dave Clark on Feb 21, 2010 7:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Kevin Hartman hasn't been waived

That’s the discrepancy here. When you’ve actually been waived, you go into a waiver draft. but in Hartman’s case, he was offered a contract. You have to offer a contract to keep a player’s rights.

Now, the problem comes in with cases like Hartman’s where the contract offer has to be a meaningful offer. KC would love to have Hartman around for the salary of a typical backup, but that’s a scorn-worthy offer for a player like a guy who should still be starting somewhere.

Apparently in the current CBA talks, the league has said that it has offered something to address this situation short of free agency. The simplest thing in that line would be to consider Hartman waived because the offer wasn’t substantive.

But that’s not what the players want. For good or ill, they want to go way beyond a better soft landing for players no longer wanted by their teams. What they’re after here is a bidding war for players that are wanted by more than one. And it’s easy to see why they might want that—it’s lucrative, especially if you’re good.

'Gentlemen' he said,
'I don't need your organization,
I've shined your shoes,
moved your mountains and marked your cards,
but Eden is burning.
Either get ready for elimination,
or else your heart must have the courage,
for the changing of the guards.'

by Sgc on Feb 22, 2010 7:24 AM MST up reply actions  

Correct

He wasn’t waived, he was offered up in the expansion draft but philly chose to go with unproven keepers instead of Hartman’s impressive record and pricetag. Not many teams in MLS play their keeper Hartman like wages, I think 3-4 teams spend more on keepers than did KC. It is clear that salary isn’t the only thing here, the team wants to start preparing their next keeper to replace the 35 year old Hartman and from the sound of the quotes in the original article they had no offers for Hartman. For teams it is a balance with the salary cap, can you afford to spend almost 10% of your cap on a 35 year old keeper? It appears the answer is no.

by denz on Feb 22, 2010 7:41 AM MST up reply actions  

So how about this

So it appears I have ruffled a couple feathers with this post, so how about this for a compromise. No team will hold the rights to a player after their contract has ended, A player can negotiate a new contract with their current team or any other team in the league.

I would be willing to buy that as a clause of the new CBA if the players will accept no guaranteed contracts. If you want to be able to leave a team at the end of your contract like every other worker at Wal-mart or any other real world company, how about you live in that real world where your boss can let you go without compensation for any reason.

I think that is fair if you want to compare MLS players to real world workers and claim to have the worse of the two deals, and you want to live in a more equal world, then let’s do it and make it equal across the board.

by denz on Feb 21, 2010 7:27 PM MST reply actions  

I think that would be ideal

You know I hate guarantees, especially in Salary Cap leagues.

And you were right that I have no sympathy for Hartman.

Besagno and Brown on the other hand…

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by Dave Clark on Feb 21, 2010 7:51 PM MST up reply actions  

no pity for Nik

Sorry Nik Besagno deserves no pity, no sympathy. He made bank of RSL and did nothing but spend the money and party, his effort as a player was sad and pathetic. No team would ever be willing to pay him what he was making before with RSL and rightfully so.

by denz on Feb 21, 2010 7:57 PM MST up reply actions  

RSL didn't pay him either

GA

but now, no team could sign him to a contract unless RSL trades his rights.

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I am a Sounder
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by Dave Clark on Feb 21, 2010 8:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I am willing to bet

RSL would let his rights go in a heartbeat, offer them a 3rd round pick, heck a 4th round pick. Based on his performance here, I doubt any team would want him. But like I said, I have no problem with players retaining their rights once they are out of contract. I think the whole concept of the league being the actual owner of contacts is wrong and I would be more than thrilled to see the teams control the contracts of players and the players to have free agency at the end of their contracts. As long as the league owns the contracts, I think it would be a total disaster as I doubt the ability of the league to remain neutral when it comes to contracts.

I think the rumors of the league signing Luis Gil to a contract with the condition that he only wants to play for one of a handful of teams is wrong. Let his agent contact the teams and see who can work out a deal, but having the league hold a lottery and then basically forcing the team that wins to trade him is insane.

by denz on Feb 21, 2010 8:38 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

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