Why "the Don's" time is past - Landon can't go but LA can bring in Ronaldinho
So I have nothing but admiration for what MLS Comish Don Garber has done for MLS, but for sometime I have questioned his ability to lead MLS into the future and to continue to grow more than just revenue for MLS, but to grow the sport.
Now comes clear proof that I am right on target with my assesment: MLS Will Not Listen Premier League Deals For Landon Donovan-
MLS commissioner Don Garber said on Thursday the the league has no intention of accepting transfer offers for the Los Angeles Galaxy midfielder...Garber calls Donovan a "real a soccer hero" and says the league cannot do without him. Last December he agreed to a four-year contract with MLS that pays him a base salary this year of more than $2 million.
So first this isn't a decision that "the Don" alone can make an offer for Landon would need to be approved or disapproved by the MLS Board of Governors but some people can't stand to share the spotlight. This is a horrible decision by whoever makes it, Landon did more good for MLS by playing and playing well in Everton. He showed that MLS can develop players who can play at the top level in the top leagues in the world and this shows players that MLS is an attractive place to play and they can move on to bigger leagues through MLS. No this move says, you can have a lesser players, like Holden, Clark, Kljestian , an others but when it comes to our best players, well they are again off limits.
We saw this happen to Taylor Twellman, who wasn't allowed to leave because "the Don" said no and in the end his career was never the same. On the other hand we saw Clint Dempsey, who wasn't as highly regarded by MLS and he went on to accomplish great things in the EPL, and it has made him a better player for the USMNT.
The position of "the Don" hurts US Soccer by forcing Landon to stay and not being able to play at the top of his potential. I understand the value Landon brings to MLS, but I also understand that he is a part of the USMNT and as such represents far more than just MLS, and "the Don's" interest in cashing checks. Landon will continue to be the face of US Soccer, no matter where he plays, it is just sad that one mans self interest would hurt the larger good. You have to wonder what message this sends to other players? If you come to MLS, and are good for their business, they may not trade you no matter what offer is made. At the time when soccer is at the peak of interest in the United States, this self serving approach speaks volumes on why it is time for new leadership in Major League Soccer.
If you don't think this is self interest yet, just check out the "breaking news" after the jump:
Also out today is news that Major League Soccer will sign another DP next week, and that it will be Ronaldinho going to LA. Which is interesting, considering they had $0 cap room left, even with the shady dealings that have all 3 of their loaned players from Brazil counting just $80,000 each against the cap, something we all know isn't even close to their real value. "The Don" has always allowed the rules to be bent for LA, and with good reason in his mind, MLS wouldn't be around anymore if it weren't for the money that Phil Anschutz pumped into the league.
It was clear a couple years ago when the rules were changed to allow AEG (Anschutz Entertainment Group) to sign David Beckham, a move that "the Don" approved. If that weren't enough LA was allowed to "grandfather" Landon Donovan who would have required one of the new "Designated Player" slots to stay with LA, but an exception was made for him and a couple other players. Yet another exception was made when LA continued to struggle with both Beckham and Donovan, so they were allowed to sign another "grandfathered" player in Carlos Ruiz, and even with the rules being bent so much it didn't help the Galaxy on the pitch and they soon got rid of Carlos Ruiz.
The rules were again changed, per the request of some owners, this time "the Don" just days after the league and players union signed a new contract, the rules were changed to allow each team to have 2 "designated players" who now would count less against the team's salary cap than in the past. In addition each team could "buy" a 3rd DP spot by giving the league some money.
I feared at the time that this move would quickly take MLS into a world of the rich teams vs. not so rich teams, not every team in MLS is owned by a company like AEG or Red Bull. Well we are just a day into the FIFA transfer window, and already a second team has optioned to use their second DP slot, LA was finally forced to count both Beckham and Donovan as DP's. The New York Red Bulls signed Thierry Henry from Barcelona, and have hinted that they will be using that 3rd DP option very shortly. According to their current roster salaries published by the MLS Players Union, they will likely need to cut some players to ensure they have the $335,000 that a DP now counts against the salary cap.
Then today I wasn't really surprised to hear that LA and MLS will announce that they will use that 3rd DP option as well as they will sign Ronaldinho, who has long been tied to an eventual move to LA. Those beans were kinda spilled by Real Salt Lake owner Dave Checketts today on KALL 700 it is about 3/4 of the way through the recording. Now this will mean that either LA will need to cut some players, or again a change to the rules will be made to Phil can win the MLS Cup, which is now named after him.
Don't trust me, well here are the current salaries for LA:
|
Last |
First |
Base |
Guaranteed |
With DP caps |
|
Beckham |
David |
5,500,000.08 |
6,500,000.04 |
335,000.00 |
|
Berhalter |
Gregg |
180,000.00 |
198,750.00 |
180,000.00 |
|
Birchall |
Chris |
132,000.00 |
145,125.00 |
132,000.00 |
|
Bowen |
Tristan |
70,000.00 |
101,363.63 |
70,000.00 |
|
Buddle |
Edson |
178,448.00 |
188,448.00 |
178,448.00 |
|
DeLaGarza |
AJ |
45,100.00 |
45,100.00 |
45,100.00 |
|
Donovan |
Landon |
2,050,000.00 |
2,127,777.78 |
335,000.00 |
|
Cazumba |
Alex |
70,000.00 |
80,000.00 |
70,000.00 |
|
Dunivant |
Todd |
120,000.00 |
126,750.00 |
120,000.00 |
|
Franklin |
Sean |
73,535.00 |
87,285.00 |
73,535.00 |
|
Gomes |
Juninho |
70,000.00 |
80,000.00 |
70,000.00 |
|
Gonzalez |
Omar |
80,000.00 |
157,000.00 |
80,000.00 |
|
Gordon |
Alan |
87,731.00 |
87,731.00 |
87,731.00 |
|
Jordan |
Bryan |
40,000.00 |
40,000.00 |
40,000.00 |
|
Kirovski |
Jovan |
84,000.00 |
84,000.00 |
84,000.00 |
|
Klein |
Chris |
96,000.00 |
101,000.00 |
96,000.00 |
|
Kovalenko |
Dema |
136,500.00 |
144,118.75 |
136,500.00 |
|
Lewis |
Eddie |
96,000.00 |
99,333.33 |
96,000.00 |
|
Magee |
Mike |
93,500.00 |
96,000.00 |
93,500.00 |
|
Marshall |
Yohance |
40,000.00 |
40,000.00 |
40,000.00 |
|
Mathis |
Clint |
120,750.00 |
120,750.00 |
120,750.00 |
|
Da Silva |
Leonardo |
70,000.00 |
80,000.00 |
70,000.00 |
|
Ricketts |
Donovan |
160,000.00 |
160,000.00 |
160,000.00 |
|
Saunders |
Josh |
57,475.00 |
60,608.75 |
57,475.00 |
|
Sesay |
Israel |
75,000.00 |
107,083.33 |
75,000.00 |
|
Stephens |
Michael |
40,000.00 |
42,500.00 |
40,000.00 |
|
Totals |
9,766,039.08 |
11,100,724.61 |
2,886,039.00 |
So it leaves one to wonder how LA is allowed to already be over the salary cap, since the new salary cap is $2,550,000. So if their "loaned players don't count against the cap, that would put them at $2.67, but wait Generation Adidas players don't count against the cap either. Not sure who would still be under that program, but it is clear that LA is still over the cap and adding another $335,000 will require them to cut about $400,000. Don't be surprised if they don't, they might release a player like Klein, Lewis or Kovalenko all who have seen very limited action, but I doubt they would release all 3 of them to make room.
The funny part is that it may seem like I am upset by this all, but I actually am fine with it. If any other team, Seattle, Philly, RSL, or whoever is allowed to play by these same rules. I thought the salary cap should go up more than it did in the new CBA.
I simply am pointing this out as a reflection of the questionable leadership of the MLS Comish. I won't go back into SuperLIga, or the conflict of interest having "the Don" run both MLS and SUM, or SUM representing MLS and US Soccer but seemingly caring more about promoting the Mexican National team.
I simply believe that the work that Don has done, saved the league, but that it is time for a change and someone who can see past the obvious.
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Ok, a few things
1 – the league can’t lose its most recognizable American face while mainstream America actually cares about soccer. It would be marketing suicide.
2 – A DP signed in the Secondary window only has half the cap hit.
3 – lastly I expect that we are about to see a rule change again. This time it will be to have a player placed on the season ending injury list to not count against the Cap.
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Oh,and allocation can buy down the cap hit
and no team has more allocation than LA
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disagree
1- The mainstream media will careless about Landon in weeks, we know it, it has happened before. In fact before the World Cup, what was it that got any attention for Landon? It was going to Everton, starting, and helping to take a team that was struggling and get them winning and player well. Landon can lead the growth of soccer in the United States better by playing in the best league in the world and playing against the best players, than he can here being used as a puppet of “the Don”. The league should be focusing on the next Landon, who is it?
2- Fine with that but LA is clearly already over the cap, and so even at half $167,500, they need to make some moves to get back under the cap.
3- How would that play with a player on the Injured list at the start of the season, or middle? Would New England have gotten a break for Matt Reis being injured at the start of the year? Would Seattle get credit for Jaqua? Too hairy, if you ask me
4- Allocation money is the slush fund of MLS and funny that it isn’t known by anyone in the public how much of it a team has.
It is going to come down to this, they will march out Landon and have him say “I want to stay in LA” but we all saw what happened at Everton, and that he wanted to stay. He will end up biting the bullet for MLS, and taking one to the heart for “the Don”.
point by point
1 – Landon will be on Dances with Stars if he stays with MLS. That keeps him in the mass public eye. That won’t happen if he transfers.
2 – see point 4
3 – there are two Injured lists. Season Ending (Beckham, Hurtado in Seattle), and the normal one. The potential rule change only addresses players that make the season ending list.
4 – To be able to pay down the 3rd DP to a zero dollar cap hit at the midpoint of the season would only cost 167,500 dollars. Since LA made millions off the two loans this past off season they certainly have 200k left over.
Lastly, if Donovan didn’t want to stay in MLS he shouldn’t have signed the four year deal.
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OK on 4
so if they loan a player they get allocation, doesn’t that have to be used on the players they get on loans? so would the 210,000 reported on the 3 Brazilians be what they are paying them beyond allocation, or would whatever their value above that is be coming from their allocation.
I think Landon would rather be famous for playing, not dancing.
The deal was before he actually made an impact in the EPL, that is the whole point of trades isn’t it so players under contracts can move? I really think we will see a dog and pony show out of Landon, and I don’t think it will be for the best of him or soccer in the United States if he stays. He is our leader in 2014, and he only gets better by playing overseas, not by grinding out 4 more years in MLS.
No the Galaxy received allocation for Loaning Donovan and Beckham out
This was in the millions of dollars. They can buy down a 3rd DP slot to zero dollars
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Right
So they get allocation money for the time Beckham and Landycakes were gone. I get that part, but if players on loan don’t count against the cap (my understanding) do they count against the allocation dollars? If so is it the amount that is listed on the player union list of salaries, or like other issues with allocation, do we simply never get to know?
It is usually unknown the amount of allocation paid out to a player
but in the case of the 3 Brazilians. There was little reason to think that they would be starting caliber upon their loan to LAG. They were young, and almost never played. While they were received on the cheap, any team in the league can make that happen. See Miggy Montano
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Good grief dude
“The Don” is by no means a saint, but he’s not the criminal you make him out to be either. If we learned anything from the near strike at the beginning of the season, we learned that he knows the difference between public negotiation and private.
It’s obvious that some teams have already made offers for Landon, but the league has turned them down. They likely weren’t that great ($2-4 million probably). Rather than continuing to entertain lowball numbers, Garber made this statement. Rest assured, if someone comes offering $10 million+, Landon will go. No problem.
If you were watching the SEA/DC game on ESPN2, you would have seen the half time report on this where Alexi Lalas pretty much said the same thing. As much as I hate pretty much everything Alexi says, this time he’s right. Publicly, Landon is off the table. Privately, Garber’s basically saying to the interested teams to start making serious offers or go away.
The rest of this post/rant is just ridiculous reporting again. It’s not the first time either. Conspiracy theory’s anyone?
Not a criminal, just not the best we need in charge of MLS
I can only report what “the Don” says:
MLS commissioner Don Garber said the league has no intention of accepting transfer offers for the Los Angeles Galaxy midfielder.
“He’s become a real soccer hero,” Garber said Thursday after the news conference to announce French star Thierry Henry’s signing with the New York Red Bulls. “MLS needs soccer heroes, and we have a great American soccer hero playing for us in LA, holding the torch for the sport in our country, and that’s very important. I don’t believe that it’s something we can do without.”
Landon says:
When he returned to the Galaxy from the World Cup on July 2, Donovan left an opening.
“Right now, I want to be in America,” he said. “If there’s something serious to look at, then I will. I never say never to anything. But for now, I’m very excited to be home.”
Garber said additional offseason loans are possible but isn’t interested in a permanent transfer.
So posting the salary cap, facts from the MLS website, posting the salaries from the Galaxy payroll, facts from the players union, and doing math is a conspiracy in your mind, hmm? The fact that the rules change outside of the CBA, and that they tend to change when one of a very small handful of owners seem to request them is evident. Or please explain how the DP clause isn’t in the new CBA, why the change to the DP rules aren’t in the CBA, those changes can only be done by Don Garber. He may need the approval of the Board of Governors or not, I don’t know but I don’t recall him every saying that there was a vote to change the rules. He just announces new rules.
Am I wrong about Don Garber running both MLS and SUM? You might want to check their website Don is the CEO of SUM. Am I wrong about the marketing arm for MLS being more concerned about the Mexican National Team? You might want to check the press releases from SUM, they have 6 on their website from February of this year to May of this year, the only ones listed and each of them is about the Mexican national team. This from the same group that controls marketing for US Soccer, but no mention of them other than a logo on their home page.
You don’t have to like me, you don’t have to agree with me, and you sure don’t have to read my blog. So you disagree with Alexi Lalas until he says something that helps you make a point. The point of LA signing Ronaldinho is ridiculous, hmm really, or are you saying that you listened to the owner of a MLS team do everything but say it on the air, and you just don’t believe it?
How about this, I will bet you $100 that within 10 days MLS announces the signing of Ronaldinho, and that he goes to LA.
If you think that Man City has offered a lowball figure for a player they want, well you haven’t seen the money they have thrown around on players have you? Honestly, the 10 million dollar number has been there since last year on Landon, do you think that puts even a dent in the budget of Man City?
Sorry, I believe this is about “the Don” protecting what he sees as the leagues meal ticket, and this week he is right. As I said to Dave above, nobody talked about Landon this year until he went to Everton, then he was a hot topic, he came back and fell off a lot of peoples radar until the World Cup, in a month or two he will fall right back off the radar as people talk about Henry, and whoever else gets signed in the next couple weeks as DP’s. I think Landon going overseas is good for MLS, as it shows the quality of our best player is good enough to play anywhere, I think it is good for US Soccer. Landon is going to be wearing the armband in 4 years, and playing in MLS won’t help him as much as playing in the EPL would. I think it is good for Landon, he was won MLS Cups, he has been the MVP, and now he has proven that for a short period of time he can play in the best league in the world and be an impact player, now he needs to go there and prove it for a season and become a leader on a team there.
This is my opinion, welcome to it.
Not questioning the facts, just the presentation and insinuation
Who said anything about SUM or the Mexican National Team? Who said anything about US Soccer? When did I say I didn’t like you? Why do I have to be a hypocrite for agreeing once with Alexi? (maybe I deserved that last one)
I’ve read the rumors about Ronaldinho and personally I would love to see him come to the league and it would be within the rules for LA to grab him. The fact that you forgot about allocation money in the blog post doesn’t make that less true. Why the DP rule isn’t in the collective bargaining agreement, I don’t know? I highly doubt there’s some conspiracy behind it as you seem to be insinuating.
$10 million has been there since last year? Really? Got a source, link, anything to prove that? Here’s one from last month where $13 million was projected as the amount necessary to get him.
Your last paragraph really gets to the heart of the matter though doesn’t it. Do you realize that the team you support is subsidized (in part at least) by the team you’re bashing for getting “special treatment” (which, as I’ve said before, is incorrect)? Disagree? Got a link showing RSL has ever turned a profit? They won the freakin’ MLS Cup (albeit by sneaking into the playoffs and via some PK shootouts) and there hasn’t been one sold out home game yet this season in that 20,000 seat stadium. They’re even winning this season! Meal ticket indeed.
There is nothing unfair about the facts you’ve shared except for the conclusions you’ve drawn. Rules have been followed, great players have been (or will be) brought in, moved on, and protected at times. And most importantly, money is starting to be made (by a few teams at least). That’s the only way this league can be successful and we can keep enjoying this level of professional soccer in markets both big and small. Keeping Donavan here until some excellent money is being offered for him is good business sense. I, for one, hope Donavan is “bought” by the end of the season for some crazy money. The whole league will benefit from that, not just Garber and not just LA. Privately, I think Garber hopes for the same thing.
OK
The rest of this post/rant is just ridiculous reporting again.
So without knowing what you are talking about in particular, I just covered the range of everything else that was out there. I didn’t say anyone had offered 10 million, I said that the number was already out there. Remember when Landon went on loan, then talk was of him staying in the EPL. The 10 million dollar number was offered up as the “magic” number on several networks as what it would take to sign him. We don’t know what was offered, and probably never will.
If you could tell me how much allocation money LA has, or Seattle, or any team has, I would be less suspicious of it being able to be used as a “slush fund”. It is funny that at no point do I bash LA, I am actually happy for them, and hope they get to sign Ronaldinho, as long as it doesn’t require a “one time adjustment” to the rules and as long as each team in MLS is treated with the same rules. I have stated before that I was fine with a second DP slot for teams, I don’t like the idea of “buying” a 3rd spot,. I published the interview with RSL president Bill Manning, stating that RSL wasn’t profitable in 2009, the money to pay the bills doesn’t come from MLS it comes from out owners, in fact RSL was expected to be even or slightly in the black in 2010 by projections and attendance has been above expectations. So they haven’t sold out any dates, BFD, their attendance is up, their revenue is up.
So if a club makes money or sells out (how many times has LA sold out this year? have you seen their half empty stands on TV), they should be able to get rules changed at whim? Sorry the history of minor “exceptions” to the rules for teams has been part of the league, and I am fine with changing the rules. Just do it publicly, you know like maybe before having LA sign Landon to a new contract that couldn’t be easily “grandfathered” in without other owners wanting their own exceptions.
I am sorry if you don’t like the conclusions I draw, MLS has a history of doing some very silly things in regards to player moves, we have let talented young players go to teams only to see them sit on the bench and lose all value. We have had talented players who the league hasn’t accepted transfer offers on, and sometimes players have been forced to simply wait for their contracts to end and then leave. I believe that the majority of the issues I have with the way rules are enforced is that none of us really know what the rules are, I have stated before that I believe the days of the league controlling all contracts, and answering to themselves should be over and that control should be moved to the teams.
I did question the salary cap issues for LA, as nobody knows the magic dollar amount of allocation money, It is unclear if the $250,000 payment for another DP slot is coming in the form of cash/ cap room/ or allocation money. If you know please enlighten me, I would love to know. It doesn’t make you wonder why just days after the League and Players Union negotiate a complex contract covering details of the league and how things are done, down to home much players get for lunch when on the road, that something like an exception to the entire salary structure wasn’t included? I am sorry it makes me wonder a lot, and if something that major can be done outside of that contract, what other rules can be made or changed. I like thing in the light, where we don’t have to wonder about things.
I will disagree that we need some “excellent” money from the transfer of one player, even a $20 million dollar transfer fee is small compared to the long term growth of soccer in the US. The league has made a tity some over the last few years in the ever raising franchise fees, which has softened the financial hardships of some owners. I think he would do as much good for the MLS playing in Man City, than he will playing in LA.
I think he is one of the few players who can help MLS convert those 23.3 million people who watched the World Cup final, but don’t watch MLS, or buy tickets to matches. The MLS fans are already here, but who are the rest of those people who watched? Some are new to soccer, some watched because they like Spain or the Netherlands but they would already be soccer fans. I believe that a big number of people that watched are already soccer fans, but like some that I know, they watch Mexican soccer, or European soccer, but not MLS. Go back to my posts about the face of MLS fans (1 and 2) and it is clear that there is a disconnect between World Cup fans and MLS fans, Landon could bridge some of that gap by staying in MLS, but if that were really the case wouldn’t it of already happened? I think him playing in the EPL, gets the fans who wake up early to watch those matches to think, well if he was playing in MLS, maybe there is something to there for me to watch. Maybe I am wrong, hell I am often. I simply believe that we won’t convert people to soccer fans by having Landon stay and do Letterman, or Dancing with the Stars, I do think we can convert soccer fans that aren’t MLS fans into MLS fans by having the best player in MLS, and best US player facing off against the best talent in the world.
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If you could tell me how much allocation money LA has, or Seattle, or any team has…
Can you tell me how much RSL has? Have they somehow squandered their “slush fund” while LA is obviously using theirs effectively? Why aren’t you being just as critical of RSL management as you are of “the Don”?
the money to pay the bills doesn’t come from MLS it comes from out [sic] owners
Again, I dare you to be as critical of RSL management as you are being of Garber. Have they really told you that they don’t get money from the league? Based on what I’ve read this is simply not true. Expansion fees for example are divided up among the current teams (didn’t look for the article that stated this, but happy to if you don’t believe me). So the claim is RSL management refuses to take this money or gives it back? That would be impressive. Last year Garber gave a speech to the “Leaders of Football” in which he specifically called attention to revenue sharing, the salary cap, and spending limits dictated by MLS policy. Are RSL owners telling you that they don’t take their share of the league revenue? I’m confused that you’re willing to take their statements at face value with no criticism or follow up, but a lone statement from Garber caused you to cry foul several times over. When Seattle gave the refund for the embarrassing LA defeat (at an estimated cost of $1 million), MLS president Mark Abbott laid down the law that this would not be offered again by any team in the league. Why would he care if Seattle keeps all their revenue? I’m pretty sure the fact is that they keep a large percentage of it, but the rest is pooled with other team’s revenue and divided up among all teams in the league. All teams are consumers (looters?) of that pool, but only a few are producing currently. Again, I’m okay with this. It allows for teams in smaller markets to actually exist.
The reality is that there are a few teams in the league (LA, Seattle, Toronto are the only sure ones) turning a profit and the rest are not (yet). There is a definite redistribution of wealth that occurs in the league and if RSL managers are saying they don’t take part in that, I’m not buying.
how many times has LA sold out this year?
One. On July 4 vs. the Sounders. Their first sellout of the season and Landon’s first game back after the World Cup. How did RSL attendance do with Findley’s first game back? (Answer: 17,847, right at the season average)
…there is a disconnect between World Cup fans and MLS fans, Landon could bridge some of that gap by staying in MLS, but if that were really the case wouldn’t it of already happened?
You’re impatience does little to help the credibility of your points. It’s way too early to say any bump from the World Cup has already happened. The World Cup has been over less than a week. See the above point about the sellout crowd in LA and you can see the start of the effects. The effects haven’t “happened” already, we are just starting to see them now.
I am sorry it makes me wonder a lot…
Apology accepted.
Please check your facts
RE: Galaxy roster and salary cap
Israel Sesay ($75k) and Yohance Marshall ($40k) have been released by LA and have signed for Maryland Monarchs and Austin Azteks, respectively. That frees up $110k of the $177k they’d need to sign a 3rd DP at midseason, and that doesn’t account for any of the allocation money LA has accumulated through draft pick trading and the Becks & Donovan loans in the offseason. They’re under the cap by enough to sign a 3rd DP, and if the “long term injury” change goes through, they’ll be in even better shape.
RE: Landon Donovan
He has stated multiple times that he is very happy to be playing and living in California, and frequently mentioned his homesickness while on loan at Everton. Recent interviews indicate that he acknowledges his role as an ambassador to the game in America and is very excited to stay with LA in that role to benefit US soccer. Furthermore, he may wish to stay for personal reasons now, as speculation circulates about him recently reconnecting with his estranged wife. That might be enough, in his mind at least, to turn down a potentially lucrative transfer to the strongest top to bottom league in the world.
I only know what the MLS Players Union has posted
I pulled my data from what the MLS Player Union makes available, their last update was June 14th. Now that transaction data is impossible to find on the MLS website, I posted the most recent data I had. They are under if the loan salaries don’t count, do they? I don’t know and can’t find that answer anywhere that I have looked. Do you know what Allocation Money amount exists, I can’t find it anywhere. How about the allocation money they are using on their 3 players on loan? Again I don’t know, and can’t imagine that any fan does. Without knowing all the details of it, we can only go on what we do know, the salary cap is $2.55 million dollars and LA is spending above that already, so clearly they are using some of those “allocation” dollars. How many, and how much do they have left, is anyone guess.
Landon has said many things over the years. I disagree that him staying and playing in MLS is of the most benefit to US Soccer, I think him playing against better competition all year would make him a better player and help the US do better, I use Dempsey as the example, has he gotten better since leaving New England? You do make a good point about his personal life, and my issue isn’t with Landon saying he wants to stay or go. My issue is with “the Don” saying that he won’t accept offers for him, true or not, it makes him seem like he is more interested in his interests than those of the player or the sport, in my opinion.
There are
A ton of holes in your reasoning. But how about we just skip to the main point.
RE: Landon Donovan
Garber said the same things when the whole Beckham to AC Milan on loan stuff was spreading.
If you can’t see how he might be playing transfer politics, I don’t think you should start berating him and suggesting his time is up. He is doing his freaking job.
Dave Clark made a good point above. If Garber makes it seem like he wants to sell Donovan, what are all the LA fans supposed to think now that the Galaxy are the best team in the league by miles? American soccer fans need to believe that, at the very least, should Donovan go it was a good business deal and was not taken lightly.
by D Tierney Gilbert on Jul 16, 2010 5:11 PM MDT reply actions
Integrity
Don is the leader of our league, he speaks for our league, for him to come out and say something means that it should be the truth. It would have been easy for him to say, “it would take an exceptional offer for us to even consider letting Landon go” and then the rest of what he said would seem and be true. By making a blanket public statement of no offers will be accepted, what happens when Man City offers the 15 million that Grant Wahl believes it will take for Don to let him go? It makes Don look like a liar, who is chasing a payday. That is not the image our league needs at this point, the eyes of more people are focused on MLS right now because of Landon, and what will those who “don’t get” the transfer games think if he should go?
I have said it before and I will say it again. MLS would not exist without the work of Don Garber, and others. He has done his very best for the league, but I have seen him play games with fans, the media, and the public at large and that is not the person we need being in charge. I say let him go run SUM, and focus on that but the public leader of our league should be one above reproach. For me that is no longer Don Garber.
Just wondering what holes in what reasoning? Would love to address them, remember I am doing what I can with what I am given.
Holes
Well, for one, I think you make a pretty bold leap by clamoring on about “the Don” bending the rules for LA. He certainly made adjustments to the structure of the league to bring in Beckham, no two ways about it. You are spot on in that.
But the bigger picture is more to the point. Teams, like your RSL, that can’t put butts in the seats need players like Beckham to get some attendance. Higher attendance hopefully leads to more interest in the league and so forth. So, the whole “the Don” bent the rules for LA point is sort of a wash. He did it for the league as a whole, though in some ways it helped LA the most. By my record, LA haven’t been so hot with Becks, but that is a whole other can of worms.
Second, I think you are holding Garber to a standard of being that frankly doesn’t exist in his job. Every big club in Europe operates under the same set of principles. Offers coming in for star player X aren’t high enough? Say he isn’t for sale to see if Club Y really wants him. There is nothing evil or malicious about this. He is playing his game. Just like when Findley gets a kick in the box a few RSL fans might wish that he goes down. Unjust or unfair? Sure, maybe. But “thems the ropes.”
Third, as others have noted, I don’t think your numbers are current. Therefore, the whole idea of the rules being bent again to bring in Ronaldinho (which has not happened yet) doesn’t really hold.
Lastly, I don’t think it matters one bit to MLS whether Donovan plays abroad or here. You might even argue that because of attendance when he is here, he could be more valuable in the league. Either way, this argument seems like a wash, and that is why I would suggest it is a hole.
My thoughts.
by D Tierney Gilbert on Jul 17, 2010 1:10 AM MDT up reply actions

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