Thoughts from Commissioner Don Garber's MLS State of the League speech (updated)
Well it is the week (or just over a week) before MLS CUP and that means it is time for the Comish to give an update on the league. As I listen to the call I took some notes and jotted down my thoughts to share with you:
Don mentions the tradition of this call over the last few years and it allows the media to focus next week on MLS Cup by addressing the issues of the league before then.
He mentions the Supporters' Summit, as well as the Board Meeting which will take place the day before MLS Cup, it is one of the few times that the hosting team has been participating in the event. Expect 1,500 Houston fans (says it is the largest number of away fans ever, I disagree he might want to look back at Seattle). HDC is looking at adding more seats for Cup, no decision yet.
High praise for Portland and Vancouver and their role within their communities, speaking highly of Jeld-Wen Field. Talking about the investment in expanded rosters, reserve league and the youth system. He speaks of youth system and how it will be very important to the future of the league as well as the sport in the US. Talking about Brek Shea and C.J. Sapong and the importance of young players, including college players, to the league.
23 Designated players, a plus of 10 this year, the move to get younger DP's will be a big part of feature. He says the single entity league lets the league change and adapt quickly, on the business side there were 87 sellouts this year, sales are up, new stadiums are going up, by end of next year 15 of 19 teams will be in SSS facilities.
Says improving numbers are what drove the NBC deal, thanks Fox for all that they have done. MLS merchandise sales are going up massively and their website is getting better and getting great traffic.
Expansion is still important, they hope to make more progress. Competition news, the committee has gotten together several times, he would like to announce things, but likely at MLS Cup as it needs to go past the Board first. 34 match schedule in 2012, it will be a unbalanced schedule, likely that MLS Cup could be awarded to the team with the most points next year. Playoff format is up for discussion, how to promote attacking soccer, discipline under review, scouting initiative, a deep dive on officiating (he mentioned that he knew fans would be interested in this). How to deal with officiating better, who, how, what they are paid.
"Our officiating is a hell of a lot better than the fans give it credit for" wow, sorry Don you just took all of what you said and flushed it down the toilet.
Best XI: Kasey Keller, Jamison Olave, Omar Gonzalez, Todd Dunivant, Landon Donovan, Brek Shea, Brad Davis, David Beckham, Chris Wondolowski, Dwayne De Rosario, Theirry Henry
That was it for the statements, now we are on to questions. Here are the statements I found interesting:
- David Beckham question, was it a success for the league? - Hope to see him back, not sure if I expect him back. David has delivered on all aspects of expectations both on and off the field, his presence it important and the league benefits without him and MLS wouldn't be what it is without him coming.
- DCU stadium and are they moving to Baltimore - Very concerned, frustrated that nothing has happened for DC on the stadium front, they are successful on field and in community. We need to figure out a solution and soon, he is concerned about the teams location for 2012, they didn't have a lease this year. They could be paying more for their lease than any other team in the league, a solution is needed and he has been pushing Kevin Payne and Change, he is supportive of moving if they can't find a local solution. Could move beyond Baltimore if no quality deal is found.
- Playoffs Question, 10 teams compressed format and does he consider it a success? He loves it, loves the play in games, he believes it is a fair representation of the regular season. The FIFA date poses a challenge, he doesn't believe it impacted the play on the field (3 games in 7 days). A follow up on the playoffs- having 3 best teams on one side of bracket was a concern, will new format address it. Don is less concerned about them top 3 playing each other cause it happens in other sports, he doesn't believe he can address the issue (really, top 8 in and no conferences).
- Another Beckham question - Galaxy road games have highest attendance, Galaxy is highest rated TV, Galaxy are one of top kits being sold.
- Cosmos and NY2 question - Cosmos aren't ruled out by the youth lawsuit against them, they are talking to as many people about a potential team there as possible. Stadium is still the issue, they have a full time person working and several consultants working on NY2, (a damn shame they don't commit that to other markets).
- Another Cosmos question, were they front runners & is NY2 on track for 2012 - League has no timetable for NY2, only impacts other cities as league is focused on only one market (hinting that others are losing interest because of that). They like the new ownership of Cosmos, so they are still prospects and the deal right now is about a stadium and they really don't care about anything else because the ownership will come? Confused is MLS looking at funding the stadium?
- Expansion outside of NY2 - meeting today with a potential Florida group, Las Vegas, Miami has no ownership group, Detroit does have a group, working with many markets to see if they can build what is needed for successful expansion. (I believe it is the Orlando City group that is in town)
- New England questions - Gualti gets high praise from Don, and his involvement with the Revolution.
- Balanced Schedule - 38 games would almost be impossible, weather, stadium availability, FIFA dates, from a competitive perspective the travel impact. The whitecaps traveled almost 60K miles, low end was 30K, while teams in Europe rarely travel 5 or 6K. We live in the US and fans have to just deal with it.
- Grow National fan base and TV ratings, it needs to be done via rivalries. Teams to love and hate, which really means that the new schedule is going to be full of crappy geographical matches that will render the regular season pointless as it is in the NFL, NHL and other leagues where it is about getting an easy schedule to get to playoffs.
- Thierry Henry question- A positive impact on the league, on field he has done well and added credibility to the league, others around the world paying attention because of him, looking forward to bigger and better things from him.
- New York & Expansion again - is Randall's Island one of them? Wilpon's still in mix? Yes Randall's Island is valid, they are researching it. Not sure how to get people on and off the island, don't own any land, but still on the list. Wilpon family hasn't had much contact with the league lately.
- Long term goals of league? - Goals is easy, they just went through process of defining a unified vision for the league. Presenting to board, be a top league by 2022, a lot of work over a half dozen categories, high quality play, infrastructure, operational goals & performance,having a good league where every team has a chance to beat Man U, want to be the league of choice (fans, players, sponsors, everyone) want to rival other sports for TV ratings and revenue. They know what they need to do, a lot of work to figure out how to get there.
- Scheduling Question, Couldn't it be dealt with by some better organization - Midweek attendance is up a lot, but no longer a concern, frankly it isn't the driver on the schedule anymore. There will be byes with 19 teams, adds there is a lot of complexity in schedule. A good follow up- will some teams not play the champions?- He believes a unbalanced schedule will help lead to being a better league, it is a complicated process, a full time person at MLS who has consultants who deals with it (a 15 year veteran)(that might be part of the problem?)
- Toronto FC question- is on field there going to match off field - Their investment in academy, hope that Aron Winter can be successful, hope that they can figure it out.
- Montreal Impact question and what does unbalanced schedule mean - It means that each team will not play every other team twice this year. They are putting together a schedule that will drive fan interest and provide the best competitive situation, they hope to issue the schedule by early January. Follow up - when will MLS site be available in french? Soon, by start of 2012 season.
- Balanced Schedule question again - they will explain the competitive changes they are going to present, they think it will work.
- More DC stadium issue- dealing with public vs. private financing and the other issues that have been involved but the league wants some public funding and mayor says no public funding will be offered (listen the team is moving and the sooner the better).
- How was the meeting with Jurgen? A long positive meeting, how to get players year round training, but working with the federation is a key. Overseas training will be a part of this, getting them over to train vs. trial and transfer is something MLS can support.
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Away Fans
The Don said it was the largest # of away fans for a MLS Cup Final. I don’t recall Seattle ever making one of those.
I actually think we had about
2,000 RSL fans in Seattle in 2009, but because it wasn’t organized by the team and the league only provided 150 tickets together most of them went uncounted as they were sitting all over the stadium instead of together as a group.
Fascinating post
This is great. Lots of talking points came up obviously. Thanks for sharing.
Some questions/thoughs:
1. Who are the four teams not considered to be in SSS? SJ, DC, Chivas(?), NE(?). It’s been debated whether Seattle’s stadium is SSS, but since the club controls it, Don has specifically stated that there’s no need for a new SSS in Seattle.
2. Glad to see the extensive travel some teams deal with mentioned openly and as one of the core reasons to not expand the schedule further.
3. Glad to see that TV ratings were so high this season. Denz, does this surprise you? I seem to remember you had much lower faith/expectations at the beginning of the season.
4. Was the “team ownership clause” in Beckham’s contract discussed. I wonder if he leaves after this season, if he’s allowed to exercise that clause or if he has to wait until he’s completely retired from the sport.
5. Was diversified ownership discussed at all? AEG still owns 2 teams (both in the MLS Cup this year) and the Hunt Sports Group still owns 2. In order for the league to “grow up” this really needs to change.
6. Very glad to see that the DC situation is not going to be left unchecked for another season. It would be a shame to relocate that team because of their great (and numorous) fans, but it would also be a shame to continue to pay high rent and the delapotated stadium with no exit/improvement plan.
7. Did he clarify if the MLS Cup would be played at the SS winner’s field, or just the highest seeded team of the remaining 2? I assume the latter, but you’ve always been pushing for the first IIRC.
Again, thanks for sharing this. Fascinating stuff.
thanks
There was some interesting stuff that came up for sure, I actually got the TV numbers (averages for the year) and am working on a post with them and some other topics from the call. I am a bit surprised by the TV numbers, but happy for them.
1. I would think SJ, DC, New England, and Seattle
2. Yes but I think it is a weak excuse, and I deal with it in my post “state of the league” post
3. actually got the TV numbers (averages for the year) and am working on a post with them and some other topics from the call. I am a bit surprised by the TV numbers, but happy for them.
4. Wasn’t mentioned
5. Not really, I think with AEG selling a part of Houston we are moving the right way (I expect the rest of HOU to be sold within 24 months). I don’t think anyone buys Columbus without moving the team.
6. I think DC will end up either in Baltimore or moving to another market, the politics are killing them off the pitch which is impacting them on the pitch. That franchise deserves much better.
7. I will have to re-listen to the question but it sounded like the best record during the regular season would be host (Supporters’ Shield) which would still give them 3-4 weeks to plan MLS Cup.
how casually you support moving original 96 teams
and crap all over the most loyal supporters that have stuck with this league since the beginning
“6. I think DC will end up either in Baltimore or moving to another market, the politics are killing them off the pitch which is impacting them on the pitch. That franchise deserves much better.”
their fans deserve better than to have their club ripped away from them by greedy billionaires looking for the best taxpayer handout they can swindle from the public trough
Win or lose, we'll always be there for you.
by johnjahafanclub on Nov 13, 2011 11:38 PM MST up reply actions
They do
But the reality is that after a decade of trying and deals being put on and being taken off the table, DC United is playing in a stadium that doesn’t allow that franchise to move forward. The reality is that the fans of DC United deserve better than what they have at RFK, they have spend years trying to work with the local politicians to get a new home for the team only to have the rug pulled out from under them each time.
I can’t ask the owner to continue to lose money, I can’t ask the players to continue to work in poor conditions, and while I feel for the fans of DC United, even they suffer with the poor conditions of RFK. Sports are a business, they always have been and always will be, and asking their owner to continue pouring good money down a never ending drain of losses isn’t realistic.
Is it wrong for Chang to want a similar funding deal like was had at FedEx field? Or Nationals Park?
I don’t take pleasure in the potential of moving a well supported team, but the reality of DC United is one where something has to change, even if that means moving them to Baltimore or beyond.
almost every pro soccer team in the world loses at least some money
very few turn a profit the reality is that MLS probably has more profitable teams than most leagues due to the strict salary cap and tv-revenue sharing unlike say La Liga where Madrid/Barca get all the tv money and half of the rest of the teams have been in bankruptcy protection within the last 12-18 months.
United pays $140k/game under its lease, the league average for MLS is $80k/game. Oh nooooo how horrible Will Chang pays $60k more per game than other teams. Yeah that’s not great but it is chump change compared to how many hundreds of millions of dollars that Phil Anschutz and Lamar Hunt poured into this league. Look at how much money many NBA owners are losing every year. Will Chang loses what, a million? Psh. The guy is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. The amount of money he is losing per year is a tiny fraction of his fortune compared to the percentage of their income that DC United fans spend on the team. A lot of them are federal workers who work on the hill for only 20k-40k/year and they probably drop 1-2k of their salaries on tickets/merchandise and trips.
The fact is that the vast vast majority of soccer teams in the world lose money. The owners reap their profit when they sell the team down the road for higher capital gains.
Win or lose, we'll always be there for you.
by johnjahafanclub on Nov 14, 2011 1:57 PM MST up reply actions
Only care about MLS
Other clubs around the world get themselves in financial trouble all the time, a model that MLS has been doing their best to avoid. There are guys who poured a ton of money into the league and seen little from it, but that has little to do with DC United. When Chang bought the team, I am sure he did so with the plan of getting a stadium that would allow him to make some money, but that hasn’t happened. So the reality of moving the team to a market where he can make a profit isn’t something I get all upset about, sorry.
Oh please don’t try to get me to feel compassion for federal workers, it just doesn’t work:
The average pay for the nation’s 1.9 million federal workers is a little over $71,000, with the 372,041 federal workers in the Washington area earning an average of $94,047. The average salary for the nation’s 108 million private-sector workers is $50,028.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/federal-salaries-targeted-private-sector-pay-stagnates#ixzz1dijNhZc2
Guess I am confused, it is OK for the guy who put millions on the line the reality is this DC United will continue to suck on the pitch as long as the organization is loosing not just the 60K per match on their lease, but as they continue to lose money on parking, concession and all those other things that could allow the club to make money to actually improve the team. When Chang plucked down his money for DC United it was a bet on the team getting a stadium where revenues would flow to the team and not away from them, since that hasn’t happened why shouldn’t be allowed to take his property and move it?
It isn’t like he wants move the team out of DC,but RFK is a pit, a money pit for Change, and just a pit for the fans and players who go there. Perhaps the concerned fans should pony up and buy the club from him, or do more than have a online petition going, the situation has been bad for years and now without a lease at RFK it just continues to get worse, and I don’t see a solution coming that works. That is why I believe that the team will move, be it Baltimore, be it somewhere in DC, be it somewhere nobody has thought of yet, but the days at RFK are winding down.
MLS clubs have appreciated in value since Chang bought DC
even without building a new stadium, the mere fact that he is still the owner of a major league soccer team means he has made money. Between SUM money, shirt sponsor money, and better tv revenue, DC is more valuable today than it was when Chang bought it in 2007 for $33 million from AEG. That 33 million number was before they got Volkswagon shirt sponsor money in 2008. Forbes valued DCU at $37 million in 2009, just two years after Chang’s acquisition. Since then, SUM rights have appreciated significantly and TV deals improved substantially with the new ESPN and NBC deals.
Chang just hasn’t “realized” that increase in value by selling the team yet. Spare me the “money pit” bs. Chang will turn a healthy profit whenever he decides to sell DC United. The appreciation of the asset value trumps the small annual operating loss that DC has.
RFK ain’t ideal but it’s better than either stadium my Earthquakes have played in (Spartan and Buck Shaw) and it’s FAR better than uprooting the team and taking a dump on one of the best soccer markets in the country. And you think it will be better to move to Baltimore, one of the crappiest pro sports markets in the country? Baltimore hase one of the nicest baseball stadiums in the country and nobody goes to Orioles games.
The few taxpayer dollars that Baltimore would throw at Chang are not worth the long term damage to MLS’ reputation and fanbase. MLS should have learned this lesson by now with all the damage it did with the SJ-to-Houston fiasco that was completely avoidable. If MLS had forced AEG to stick it out 1 more year in SJ and continue their ownership search they could have just sold the team to Lew Wolff and then let AEG start its own expansion team in Houston without doing any damage to the Bay Area market.
Win or lose, we'll always be there for you.
by johnjahafanclub on Nov 14, 2011 4:56 PM MST up reply actions

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